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Nicky
08-06-2004, 12:54 AM
OMG, DO NOT go see "THE VILLAGE" It was soooo stupid. My friend & I WALKED OUT halfway thru the end of the movie. Anybody else have any suggestions on what movie to see or not?
I want to go see "LITTLE BLACK BOOK" with Brittany Murphy. It looks really funny.
chinarain62
08-06-2004, 09:01 AM
Is M. Night Shamalyan losing his touch for a good psychological thriller?
chinarain62
08-06-2004, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by Nicky
OMG, DO NOT go see "THE VILLAGE" It was soooo stupid. My friend & I WALKED OUT halfway thru the end of the movie. Anybody else have any suggestions on what movie to see or not?
I want to go see "LITTLE BLACK BOOK" with Brittany Murphy. It looks really funny.
Farenheit 911!
zebrarette
08-06-2004, 11:53 AM
Oh man...I was going to go see this tonight. I guess I'll pick Collateral Damage with Tom Cruise instead. I hear that it's pretty good. Thanks for the heads up Nicky.
OU812
08-06-2004, 01:08 PM
my brother went and told me the same thing
malja316
08-06-2004, 01:08 PM
Are you serious? The Village ****ed? I thought 6th Sense, Unbreakable, and Signs were good movies...
I cant wait for Exorcist: The Beginning on 8/20...hope its as good as #1 and #3...and not as bad as #2 was...
CarlW53
08-06-2004, 03:55 PM
They should have called Unbreakable, unwatchable. That movie was stupid.
I tried to tell Nicky to hold off and go see Alien vs Predator next week. Now that looks like movie of the year.
malja316
08-06-2004, 04:28 PM
I agree Alien v Predator looks like a cool movie...I would like to see this, but I wanna see what other people have to say about this before seeing it....I thought Unbreakable was ok, but nowhere near as good as his 6th Sense or Signs flics...
chinarain62
08-06-2004, 04:58 PM
I actually liked the 6th Sense and Unbreakable VERY much.
Signs was ok - a little too predictable. I'm gonna go see The Village anyway. The trailers don't make it look that great, but I'm a fan of M. Night's work so I'd like to check it out.
EVHFV
08-06-2004, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by chinarain62
Farenheit 911!
Uh oh!!!!!!! I'm not touching that one.....but I'll agree with the suggestion!!! Very informative.
I don't know, personally, it looks like all these remakes and sequels aren't going to be very good. You usually get "that feeling" while seeing a commercial whether it would/should be good or not. I've seen the commercials for the new Exorcist and AVP. I just get this feeling of "there's a movie NOT to go see" rather than "Ooooh, that looks cool!!!" I don't think movie remakes have been done well as of late. I hear there's going to be a Back To School remake. Blasphemy. You can't redo RODNEY!!!!! And who's gonna do KINISON'S part????? I saw Jason VS. Freddy a couple months back. I wouldn't say it was a bad movie, but it wasn't really good, either. Like I said, there's something not being done right, or there's a certain something missing. The first Nightmare movie scared the living piss out of me for days. Jason vs. Freddy was cool to watch, but it didn't scare me in the least. At best, scary movies now make you go "wow, what a violent way to go....cool effects". When I see a scary movie, I want to feel scared, anticipation of what'll happen next, from who. A mystery, I want to have to figure something out, drama, a good story line with the whodunnit factor. And with comedy, I simply want to laugh. I don't think movies coming out in awhile have had those elements. As great as Spiderman 2 was, the ending kinda let me down. Doc Oc just instantaneously went from bad to good with hardly a fight. At least Willem DeFoe was faking his awakening, which led to a cool ending. I have a feeling AVP will be alot like Jason VS. Freddy. Lots of sorta cool fight scenes, but nothing scary or surprising. Just violence and blood. It's ok, but it doesn't push that threshold.
Delirious Nomad
08-06-2004, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by chinarain62
Farenheit 911!
****ed.
;)
Delirious Nomad
08-06-2004, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by EVHFV
Farenheit 9-11.............I'll agree with the suggestion!!! Very informative.
So was star Wars.
I hope you read the bi-partisan 9-11 Commission Report.
I would hate for you to only see 1 side.
The report refutes most of Moore's movie.
Many reporters are now admitting it....now that the movie has served it's purpose.
...............and here we GO!!!!!
:D
GuitarPLYR
08-06-2004, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by Delirious Nomad
So was star Wars.
I hope you read the bi-partisan 9-11 Commission Report.
I would hate for you to only see 1 side.
The report refutes most of Moore's movie.
Many reporters are now admitting it....now that the movie has served it's purpose.
...............and here we GO!!!!!
:D
Nicely said!
Delirious Nomad
08-06-2004, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by GuitarPLYR
Nicely said!
Thanks G.
As I've stated many times. I don't like to see politics brought up......but when they do, I will defend the truth ferociously.
I spent the better part of last week going back and forth with Tony Harnell of TNT. It was quite enjoyable....for me, anyway.:p
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE political debate....In fact, I THRIVE on it. I have just seen it ruin too many friendships on message boards. Rarely can both sides win, which makes the other either look bad, or it gets them very angry......or both.
I would just prefer it stay off the board.
I have never, and will never, start a political thread, but I am fully prepared to finish one that gets started. (Giant Smiley)
Woohoo!
Let's rock and roll!
GuitarPLYR
08-06-2004, 09:07 PM
Yes, there is always two sides to every story. The reasons you stated for not bringing up politics are also the same reasons for not bringing up religion. Neither one is worth losing someone's friendship over!!
Delirious Nomad
08-06-2004, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by GuitarPLYR
Yes, there is always two sides to every story. The reasons you stated for not bringing up politics are also the same reasons for not bringing up religion. Neither one is worth losing someone's friendship over!!
Amen to that..............OOPS!;)
chinarain62
08-06-2004, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by Delirious Nomad
So was star Wars.
I hope you read the bi-partisan 9-11 Commission Report.
I would hate for you to only see 1 side.
The report refutes most of Moore's movie.
Many reporters are now admitting it....now that the movie has served it's purpose.
...............and here we GO!!!!!
:D
Dave - I'm sorry to say, but I'm really offended by your post.
All I did was merely suggest a movie to see in answer to Nicky's question. There wasn't anything else to it and then I see your post. And now you've made it into something and that's where I'm offended.
It's obvious that you are a right-winged conservative Bush supporter and that you also dislike Michael Moore and etc. etc. blah blah. Apparently you have a problem with people like me who are left-winged and liberal.
I have friends who are left winged like and believe it or not right-winged as well who haven't seen the movie yet and have expressed they still wish to for whatever reason they want to. I personally don't care if they or anyone chooses to see it or not. StiX and I went because we wanted to for our own reasons.
I don't know what "truth" you think you are defending or need to defend. I don't think any of us really know what the "truth" is. I think it would be more correct for you to say that you would defend what you believe to be the "truth".
So much for me suggesting a movie to see.
Nicky
08-07-2004, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by chinarain62
Dave - I'm sorry to say, but I'm really offended by your post.
All I did was merely suggest a movie to see in answer to Nicky's question.
So much for me suggesting a movie to see.
SIMMA' DOWN NOW!----Both of Ya'll........
Delirious Nomad
08-07-2004, 12:30 AM
Well, CR.
I'm very sorry that I offended you.
That was certainly not my intention.
However, you know that that movie is one of the most controversial movies ever.....and this being an election year, the short term effects could prove to sway a voter if he/she thinks that the movie is factual.....All I did was state that if you see the movie, you should read the Commission Report.
Of course, my post was not directed at YOUR post, but EVH's. He was the one that said the movie was "very informative". Without his post, mine would not have followed. I was merely pointing out that the bi-partisan commission absolved Bush of most of the assertions made by Michael Moore.
If you are going to suggest people see the movie, I will suggest they read the report and find out what really happened according to a Republican/Democrat bi-partisan panel....not just that US hating/Canada loving Michael Moore's opinions.
Again.....and this will be the FIFTH time that I have said this on this board......politics on the board (and yes.....Farenheit 9/11 is a political issue) can and will ruin many friendships unneccesarily.
I can see it's already happened......as predicted :(
EVHFV
08-07-2004, 08:37 AM
Well, like I said....ain't going there. Like many stated above, it ain't worth it. However, I will say this. It amazes me how simple comments I've made have been taken out of context. Look at what a simple comment I made like "it was very informative" has turned into. That was all. Was it not informative? That's not debating the information within, which, in that other post, I didn't do either until I was ASKED to. Even then, I made simple little, non-political statements that were questioned. Simply saying "Bush is scaring me", isn't political, simply an opinion. That was accused of being a poilitical stement, and then asked to state why he scares me. Until then, I never said he scared me by doing this or doing that, or not doing this or that. I believe THAT would have been bringing politics into it. When it comes to politics, we all have the right to make our choices based on the information we get. Nobody will ever know all the facts from both sides. We do the best we can to inform ourselves. In the end, those that are on opposing sides will probably always be. My stance is where it is. Others have theirs. That's how it goes. We make our choices for the reasons we do. The things I said on the other thread were debated every time. Regardless of a person's political history, a person can choose to vote for the opponent even if they love everything about the first candidate except one thing. If that one thing is a big enough, or even personal enough reason to not want to vote for that person, that isn't wrong. It's simply their choice, and their belief. Nobody in the world has to agree with it or like it, even if it's questioned as to why. It should simply be respected even if disagreed with. Funny how all my statements were debated or basically how wrong they were, whereas I don't think I did that. I just looked at your opinions and stances, and let them be. They're yours. You believe in them, and that's fine with me. Everyone can look at the same thing and get different perspective from it. What one person can like about a person, another will not like. A person can love everything Bush stands for, but if they don't like his stance on one view, as miniscule as another may think it is, that person can decide to vote against Bush. Simple as that. I think that's what's happening here on the board. So, while again I believe I have not gotten political (I've only mentioned my own opinions here, not politics or a political person's actions or history, hell.....not even my own political beliefs), I have my stance. Everyone else has theirs. I'm not going to tell anyone why they're not right for feeling how they do, or wanting to vote for who they do for any reason they want to. I don't have to agree with it, nor does anyone else. I won't like them any less at the end of the day, or have any hard feelings, which is my stance still. I love you all, no hard feelings, these are my opinions and I'm welcome to them. Nobody has to like them or agree with them, and that's ok. BUT, that doesn't make me wrong for having them. It just makes me different, and me. Anyone's opinion can differ or be the opposing side. I might not agree, and that's what makes them different, and themselves. And the world keeps on turning.
Delirious Nomad
08-07-2004, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by EVHFV
.................... I made simple little, non-political statements that were questioned. Simply saying "Bush is scaring me", isn't political, simply an opinion. That was accused of being a poilitical stement........................................... ....... we all have the right to make our choices based on the information we get. Nobody will ever know all the facts from both sides. We do the best we can to inform ourselves.
That's my point. "Bush scares me" IS a political statement because of exactly what you just said.
People make choices "based on the information (they) get".
...and unfortunately, most people don't follow politics.....So the information they get is from people they associate with, like here, for instance. They just figure if their friends think "Bush scares them", then there must be something scary about him, so off to the polls they go to vote for someone else.
So it IS a political statement.
I am merely a balance here so that others will see that many others disagree with your view.
Then maybe they will do their own research and make the right choice.
Again........for the SIXTH time.
This is what politics on the board does.
:(
ryank
08-07-2004, 10:59 AM
i saw the preview of the village , the part when they put their backs to the woods? So. I think i'm desensitized, and nothing can scare me anymore. I can't remember the last movie that scared me. It may be because i saw too many of those beheading videos. I want to be scared, and i'm a ****er for those silly, suspenseful hacker movies. In movies, I tend to enjoy real life adventures. I will take your advice and not spend my $ on the village.
Scary to me is what we did as kids. We shot an arrow in the air at this park with scattered trees/alot of open space. We covered our heads and gambled. One time i heard the arrow wiz by me and land by my feet. How stupid was that?
For any musicians or music fans, check out the special interest section at blockbuster for a movie called "Standing in the shadows of motown". I enjoyed this. It's about the very talented musicians behind the motown hits.
Here's a few others i can recall enjoying:
the last samurai
big fish
stevie (documentary about a troubled guy)
rabbit proof fence
second hand lions
lawn dogs, box of moonlight (sam rockwell)
Crash N' Ride
08-07-2004, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by Nicky
OMG, DO NOT go see "THE VILLAGE" It was soooo stupid. My friend & I WALKED OUT halfway thru the end of the movie. Anybody else have any suggestions on what movie to see or not?
I want to go see "LITTLE BLACK BOOK" with Brittany Murphy. It looks really funny.
I agree!!!! The muove ****ed bigtime!!!!!! :mad:
EVHFV
08-07-2004, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by Delirious Nomad
That's my point. "Bush scares me" IS a political statement because of exactly what you just said.
People make choices "based on the information (they) get".
...and unfortunately, most people don't follow politics.....So the information they get is from people they associate with, like here, for instance. They just figure if their friends think "Bush scares them", then there must be something scary about him, so off to the polls they go to vote for someone else.
So it IS a political statement.
I am merely a balance here so that others will see that many others disagree with your view.
Then maybe they will do their own research and make the right choice.
Again........for the SIXTH time.
This is what politics on the board does.
:(
DN, I really don't know what to say to you. Again, this proves my point. Bringing in politics where it was NOT brought in. My stating how Bush makes me feel is not political. I guess you think it is. That statement in no way states things he's done or why, how I feel about them, or why I would feel a certain way about them. It's about as bland a statement as can be. It's nothing more than a feeling. Not how, or why. It's like saying I hate cigarette smoke is attacking Phillip Morris and they knowingly kill people with a cancer causing agent. I truly feel words are being put in my mouth here, and then worse, being put out of context for me. I really don't see how with just that said, anyone would go to the polls and vote one way or another, how why that would sway anyone to vote a certain way. I don't like sushi. Is anyone here not going to go to a sushi bar now? I like my 4X4 pickup truck. Nobody here will by a Ford Escort now? I swear, everthing here I say, no matter how non-descript it is, is placed very neatly and categorized for me. I feel the only thing I could say that wouldn't be contested is I love Bush, vote for him. Wouldn't that be swaying voters. Nobody would have to, but from what was said above, I guess it would make decisions for people regardless of what they think. I like to give everyone more credit than that. We all make our own choices. That's a lesson I learned very hard in life. I left that last post as non-political as could be, somehow it was still made to be that I not only was being political, but trying to do something I wasn't trying to do. This really amazes me. I'll prepare myself to see how this tried to sway opinions as well. Still no hard feelings to anyone. These are simply opinions, my opinions, and mine alone. I don't believe they will sway anyone in any way. The fact that beer makes me gag hasn't hurt Budweiser in any way. I doubt sales will decrease anytime soon because of that statement. Vote Bush, vote Kerry, vote Nader, for any reason you want. It's your right, it's your belief, and it's ok with me. That must be political and steering too in some way. But I don't see it. Maybe I'm just blind, ignorant, or both. Honestly, this all is just wierd and confuses me. I don't know where this came from, especially since 99% on my first post on this thread was entirely about movie making today. I'm off to scratch my head for awhile.
EVHFV
08-07-2004, 09:17 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Delirious Nomad
That's my point. "Bush scares me" IS a political statement because of exactly what you just said.
People make choices "based on the information (they) get".
...and unfortunately, most people don't follow politics.....So the information they get is from people they associate with, like here, for instance. They just figure if their friends think "Bush scares them", then there must be something scary about him, so off to the polls they go to vote for someone else.
So it IS a political statement.
I am merely a balance here so that others will see that many others disagree with your view.
Then maybe they will do their own research and make the right choice.
Again........for the SIXTH time.
This is what politics on the board does.
:( [/QUOTE
In all seriousness, I mean no disrespect here in any way. But after everything I've said so far being turned around on me like it has been (my feeling only), I just have to say something on this quote.
So it IS a political statement.
I am merely a balance here so that others will see that many others disagree with your view.
Then maybe they will do their own research and make the right choice.
Does this mean the right choice is the one that disagrees with anything I said? Is that because it disagrees with your opinion? I don't recall disputing others disagree with me, or that they couldn't, or that anyone couldn't or shouldn't research for themselves to make their own opinions. In fact, I encouraged it. I know, I'm making an arguement for myself that holds no water, is politcal in nature, and is based on nothing solid. I get a feeling the only thing I could ever say that will never be contested is simply.............VOTE BUSH! And frankly, if that's your choice and what you believe for any reason you have, I support you. I throw my hands up in the air. Anyone, say what you will on this subject, it's fine with me. Somehow, I'm political when I say it...so now I just won't say anything about it anymore, since there's really nothing more on it I can say anyway. Still, much love to all of you and no hard feelings at all. America rules, and Zebra rocks!!!
Delirious Nomad
08-08-2004, 02:28 AM
Originally posted by EVHFV
...............I like my 4X4 pickup truck. Nobody here will by a Ford Escort now?...........
If I'm looking to buy a new truck, and I know nothing about trucks.....then you come on and say "Ford Trucks scare me"......I would automatically have a small biased against Ford trucks because I know nothing else and I am relying on your experience to help me make my decision. Then I start leaning towards Dodge just because I don't know any different.
Last time I bought a car, it wasn't on all of the exhaustive research that I did, it was what experiences my friends had with their cars. I rely on their input.
Same with people that don't pay attention to politics.
...and your comments about Bush WILL sway those that do not know any different. Again, I am merely a balance.
I'm done with this.
No hard feelings.
:)
GuitarPLYR
08-08-2004, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by EVHFV
I love Bush
....yeah, me too...just can't get enough of it!!!!!!
heh, heh....;)
Back to the original topic. It seems to me that movies are just not that scary anymore. They try to use so many special effects that it just kills the movie. To me, the scariest movies are the ones that requires you to use your imagination. For instance, the first Friday the 13th. They never showed the killeruntil the very end, just the people running away from her. Your imagination ran wild with thoughts of who or what could be out those woods. Too many movies today just don't let your imagination get the best of you anymore.
EVHFV
08-08-2004, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by Delirious Nomad
If I'm looking to buy a new truck, and I know nothing about trucks.....then you come on and say "Ford Trucks scare me"......I would automatically have a small biased against Ford trucks because I know nothing else and I am relying on your experience to help me make my decision. Then I start leaning towards Dodge just because I don't know any different.
Last time I bought a car, it wasn't on all of the exhaustive research that I did, it was what experiences my friends had with their cars. I rely on their input.
Same with people that don't pay attention to politics.
...and your comments about Bush WILL sway those that do not know any different. Again, I am merely a balance.
I'm done with this.
No hard feelings.
:)
Well, nowhere did I say Ford trucks scare me. Most people would hear that and either ignore it, or do their own research and decide for themselves. I was talking about Dodge trucks and Ford Escorts. Somehow a thing I didn't mention got brought up, just like the Bush subject. Things I didn't say are being brought up, then twisted around. Personally, I heard nothing but bad things about Dodge Rams before I bought one and aside from one small incident, have had the greatest vehicle I've ever owned for 9 years running now. If you automatically have an instant bias from just one small comment on anything, that to me is sad. Assuming other people do the same thing isn't giving people credit. The main problem here is taking things I haven't said and making them mean something else, adding meaning to things I did say and also making them mean something else as well. Like I said, I don't like sushi. People here that do will now suddenly never eat it again? People here that haven't tried it now simply because of what I said. Those are pretty big, and more likely improbable assumtions to make, especially so hastily. Personally, I think it was said best when you said you were here to "balance things" so people will go out and inform themselves after reading what I've said so they won't be influenced by me, and then make "the right choice". So after all that, if they do all that and still want to vote for Kerry or Nader, would that be the wrong choice, or THEIR choice? Can it possibly be the right choice...for them? Why does anyone have to agree with it? After all, I only said Farenheit 9/11 was very informative. Whether or not a person agrees with the information or not is up to them and they can process and use it however they want and make their own choices. That doesn't change that it was informative, which was all I said about it, ever. All CR ever said was it was a good movie to go see, suddenly it got all debate-filled in here again. All she simply did was suggest a movie. Well, with all that said and my little segue back onto the threads original topic, I have to whole heartedly agree with GuitarPLYR. Today, movies are too far and few between where you get the quality from them that would make a great movie. Effects are great, but they don't make a movie, or make a movie great, although they certainly to add to a movie when done and used well.
Delirious Nomad
08-08-2004, 07:31 PM
Let me preface my last response with "for example....."
:rolleyes:
I'm done.
chinarain62
08-08-2004, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by Delirious Nomad
If I'm looking to buy a new truck, and I know nothing about trucks.....then you come on and say "Ford Trucks scare me"......I would automatically have a small biased against Ford trucks because I know nothing else and I am relying on your experience to help me make my decision. Then I start leaning towards Dodge just because I don't know any different.
Last time I bought a car, it wasn't on all of the exhaustive research that I did, it was what experiences my friends had with their cars. I rely on their input.
Same with people that don't pay attention to politics.
...and your comments about Bush WILL sway those that do not know any different. Again, I am merely a balance.
I'm done with this.
No hard feelings.
:)
I just have to chime in and then I'm SO not saying anything else because I feel like I'm beating my head against a brick wall. And I want to stop before I get brain damage.
Dave, you CANNOT be serious with what you said in the above post. I know people can be somewhat be easily influenced (keyword somewhat), but I'm sorry - that statement is just plain ignorant. It would only make ME go out and check out Ford's even more. Believe it or not I actually like forming my OWN opinion on things. I have never been nor will I ever be THAT easily influenced nor do I rely on anyone's input. I rely more on research. If you are influenced by your friend's input more than research then why bother wasting all that time researching in the first place?? I have a friend who told me not to get my RAV4 and to get a pick-up truck instead because of this reason, that reason etc. Guess what?? I got a RAV4!!! Another friend of mine has a PT Cruiser which I've loved since they came out. I've talked to him about the car and even drove his but I still am considering getting a VW bug when I'm more serious about getting a 2nd car.
You are just NOT gonna convince me that someone has THAT much influence over another unless they are a cult leader or something. Especially Phil (no offense EV). People are stupid but not THAT stupid.
I guess the old saying hold true - ignorance IS bliss sometimes.
chinarain62
08-08-2004, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by EVHFV
Well, nowhere did I say Ford trucks scare me. Most people would hear that and either ignore it, or do their own research and decide for themselves. I was talking about Dodge trucks and Ford Escorts. Somehow a thing I didn't mention got brought up, just like the Bush subject. Things I didn't say are being brought up, then twisted around. Personally, I heard nothing but bad things about Dodge Rams before I bought one and aside from one small incident, have had the greatest vehicle I've ever owned for 9 years running now. If you automatically have an instant bias from just one small comment on anything, that to me is sad. Assuming other people do the same thing isn't giving people credit. The main problem here is taking things I haven't said and making them mean something else, adding meaning to things I did say and also making them mean something else as well. Like I said, I don't like sushi. People here that do will now suddenly never eat it again? People here that haven't tried it now simply because of what I said. Those are pretty big, and more likely improbable assumtions to make, especially so hastily. Personally, I think it was said best when you said you were here to "balance things" so people will go out and inform themselves after reading what I've said so they won't be influenced by me, and then make "the right choice". So after all that, if they do all that and still want to vote for Kerry or Nader, would that be the wrong choice, or THEIR choice? Can it possibly be the right choice...for them? Why does anyone have to agree with it? After all, I only said Farenheit 9/11 was very informative. Whether or not a person agrees with the information or not is up to them and they can process and use it however they want and make their own choices. That doesn't change that it was informative, which was all I said about it, ever. All CR ever said was it was a good movie to go see, suddenly it got all debate-filled in here again. All she simply did was suggest a movie. Well, with all that said and my little segue back onto the threads original topic, I have to whole heartedly agree with GuitarPLYR. Today, movies are too far and few between where you get the quality from them that would make a great movie. Effects are great, but they don't make a movie, or make a movie great, although they certainly to add to a movie when done and used well.
Thanks EV for your support. I'm glad someone is open-minded and well-rounded and gets me!
Delirious Nomad
08-08-2004, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by chinarain62
Thanks EV for your support. I'm glad someone is open-minded and well-rounded and gets me!
So should I be offended, CR?
Do you think I'm "closed minded"?
....or were you not referring to me?
:)
ZEBRAFREAK
08-08-2004, 10:26 PM
CR WOULDN'T DO THAT!!!
EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN OPINION AND THAT'S WHY I SEE WHATEVER MOVIE I THINK WILL BE GOOD!!! MY FRIENDS TOLD ME "HUMAN STAIN" AND "MEMENTO" ****ED AND I LIKED THEM VERY MUCH!!! GO SEE WHAT YA WANT!!! I EVEN LIKED "MY BABYS DADDY"!!! I DISLIKED "THE TEMPATION OF CHRIST"...IT REMINDED ME OF "FARENHEIT 911"...IT'S ALL EDITED THE WAY THEY WANT YOU TO SEE IT... WHO KNOW'S WHAT THE REAL DEAL WAS!!! AFTER MICHAEL MOORE'S MOVIE CAME OUT HE BEGGED RALPH NADER NOT TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT... IF ANYONE THINKS THIS WASN'T POLITICAL THEY'RE CRAZY... I'M NOT A REPUBLCAN BY ANY MEANS BUT LET'S CALL IT WHAT IT WAS- "A CAMPAIGN"!!!
chinarain62
08-09-2004, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by Delirious Nomad
So should I be offended, CR?
Do you think I'm "closed minded"?
....or were you not referring to me?
:)
My post would be what YOU perceive to be the truth. It's not gonna matter what I say!
GuitarPLYR
08-09-2004, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by EVHFV
Effects are great, but they don't make a movie, or make a movie great, although they certainly to add to a movie when done and used well.
Yes, a recent example of that would be "The Ring", you had to use your imagination a lot and they had some eerie effects as well!
Delirious Nomad
08-09-2004, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by chinarain62
My post would be what YOU perceive to be the truth. It's not gonna matter what I say!
Good.
You obviously weren't referring to me since I'm one of the most, if not THE most, open-minded persons on the board.
:D
EVHFV
08-09-2004, 04:38 PM
Well, even though my last post here probably looked like the opposite, I too am done on this subject. I was just going over facts and statements I madfe before that were just being twisted around or taken out of context, or both....doing my best to clarify things that no matter what I said how I said them, just were not going to be taken in their literal form. To use Zebrafreak as an example (I hope you don't mind, Bobby!!!), he had a view on Farenheit 9/11, spoke it, and in my eyes, wasn't anything near a political statement. In fact, I can't even contest his remarks. It's true, it very may well have been edited just as he says it might have been. In my eyes, it would also not sway anyone to either see the movie or not see it. That remark was in no way giving or taking away support for any presidential candidate, nor did it give any indication to who he does support in the race or try to sway any of our opinions on who WE should support. Somehow, I'm sure, regardless of that fact, my statement of "it was very informative" will be shown as to why mine is so different and influential. Saying "Bush scares me" while not falling in the same category is just as benign a statement since no issues of his as to why he scares me were brought up, leaving anyone to only get one thing from it, and that's knowing that he scares me. Somehow, that's supposed to influence an opinion to either vote for him or as I'm told, not vote for him. I would think if anyone reading it even cared enough to think of why he would scare me while not giving a reason, they would do one of two things. They would either say "OK, Bush scares him" and then never even think about it again, or if they did think about it, would research his politics and from that make their own decision. Why do I say they'd make their own decision? Simple, they'll either agree with his politics or (yes, it's possible) disagree with them (also known here as "the wrong decision"). According to DN, saying "Bush scares me" is so influential that if anyone studied Bush, they's do so with an instant bias and therefore even if they agreed with him, they'd still vote against him because of that bias because I've basically already not only influenced them, but made up their mind for them as well. I have to sincerely apologize for sincerely not seeing this as true in any way or even possible. People would have to be literal "lemmings" to be so easily influenced and unthinking for themselves. DN, no offense is meant here, I'm going to guess you're a Bush supporter. I don't even think you've had a problem with things I said here, even though that's how it would look at first glance. I believe the real problem you've had, is that I don't support the same candidate as you, and that makes me wrong. I have to disagree with you in saying, at least on this subject, that you're being open minded. I'll again bring up what I'd call a Freudian slip on here, in saying you're here to make sure everyone gets all the information on the other side of all the influential remarks I've made here (making them decide against Bush), and then make not their own choice or decision, but what was called the "right" choice. To me, that was, intentional or not, THE most influential statement made on this thread. Choice of bad wording? Maybe, but from how this all started and to where it's gone, I believe it's exactly what was meant. And you know what? It hasn't influenced me one bit. I'll never get all the facts, most likely not enough to satisfy most people. They would say I don't know enough to make an "informed" choice. True as it may be, there are things I know (as well as I can. Just because something is read and researched to death, we'll never know all of the truth or what the real truth might even be. Like I said, we do the best we can), and with what I know, I've formed MY OWN opinion. Not because of Michael Moore or his movie, not because of the news, not because of something Howard Stern said on a rant about the FCC, not because of something Kerry said, and not because of something Bush said. It's all those things, absorbed, and an opinion formed. It could have gone either for or against Bush once processed. I believe that's how an opinion is formed, and not because a co-worker said Kerry's a moron, or there was an anti-war/anti-Bush protest on the news. At the same time, maybe I'm wrong, but that's just another of my own personal opinions. Well, I think I've said about all I can say on this...I think. But, I fully support your stance DN because it's your opinion and belief, and that's respectable. But, I won't tell you you're wrong for it, even if I disagree with it. Because who truly is to say who is right or wrong? Not me, and certainly not anyone else here or anywhere. Anyone can vote any way they want come November, I'll shake their hand afterward no matter who it was for. As long as they vote, and that's really what matters.
chinarain62
08-09-2004, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by Delirious Nomad
Good.
You obviously weren't referring to me since I'm one of the most, if not THE most, open-minded persons on the board.
:D
Again you percieve the truth anyway you'd like it.
OU812
08-09-2004, 06:13 PM
she is on fire today
chinarain62
08-09-2004, 06:18 PM
He said fire!
Delirious Nomad
08-09-2004, 06:18 PM
She's on fire EVERY day!
:D
chinarain62
08-09-2004, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by Delirious Nomad
She's on fire EVERY day!
:D
Why thank you Dave!
Delirious Nomad
08-09-2004, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by EVHFV
I believe the real problem you've had, is that I don't support the same candidate as you, and that makes me wrong.
Wrong. I don't care who you vote for. I'll be happy if you just vote....so little people actually do.
I think we're going in circles.
No hard feelings here....Let's just vote and be happy!
:D
Delirious Nomad
08-09-2004, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by chinarain62
Why thank you Dave!
Anytime....and I MEAN that......ANY time!!
:D
EVHFV
08-12-2004, 09:10 PM
Well, a good example of what we were talking about here. It's only speculation at this point, but if anyone goes to see it, please let us know what you think. It seems Howard Stern was supposed to see an advanced screening of AVP, but never got it, and it comes out tomorrow. His best guess as to why his scheduled screening kept getting put off and won't happen now is due to the reviews it's already getting. They seem to coincide with opinions posted here recently. Great effects, but simply no story and just a bad movie. Effects are not enough, but directors are relying on them thinking it IS enough. Like I said before, you can just see a commercial and know a director was thinking the movie didn't matter, as long as it had alot of effects and that they were superb. This commercial simply didn't grab me, like most movies of today. Once in awhile, you get a nice surprise. A bad looking movie at first glance, but a good movie nonetheless. But, according to the reviews, this one will be pretty bad. Let us know how it is.
chinarain62
08-13-2004, 08:58 AM
I have to admit when I saw the trailer in the movie theatre for this movie, I said it was gonna ****. So last night on Channel 5 they had the making of AVP, so I thoughht let me watch it and maybe I was hasty in my initial reaction. Besides the fact that Lance Henrickson was hosting it and he rocks!
Unfortunately, it didn't change my mind to see it in the movies. I think this is one of those movies I will wait until it comes out on video. It does look action packed though.
GuitarPLYR
08-13-2004, 12:07 PM
I haven't been to the movies in a LONG time. I usually wait until it comes out on DVD. Movies are so much better at home. You still have the big screen, digital surround, popcorn. Plus you havet the benefit of not having people shouting at the screen, not having to pay $12 for popcorn and a drink, and you can sit/lie in any position you want to watch!!!
OK, maybe the screen isn't as big and the popcorn is not quite the same......
:p
bigdaddysmak
08-14-2004, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by malja316
Are you serious? The Village ****ed? I thought 6th Sense, Unbreakable, and Signs were good movies...
I cant wait for Exorcist: The Beginning on 8/20...hope its as good as #1 and #3...and not as bad as #2 was...
3 was awesome. Cant wait for the new one!!!!
bigdaddysmak
08-14-2004, 12:30 PM
I also read that there may be a "Freddy vs Jaso vs Ash". Now that would be cool.......I like Ash!!!!!
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