OU812
11-08-2002, 06:01 PM
I would imagine the Redbook story is legit. Else they'd get their asses sued off....I remember Val's interview on Lifetime or some bullshit show. She had Ed there with her when he was sober. He looked like shit. He was really thin and he admitted he was an alcoholic and that if he ever drank again" he'd be in trouble"....My read on that was totally Valerie laying down the law...If you don't give it up...I'm leaving.
I think we can all read between the lines. Eddie was and is still an alcoholic.
Val didn't wanna bring a child into the world under those conditions (so it must've been bad - you know half a case a day...Bottle of Jack a day) They went ahead and had a child anyway.
Ed calmed down a bit but heads out on a world tour for the **** album. Hagar said in his book that Ed was drinking like a mother ****er in Japan. He was so drunk he didn't think he'd be able to play. Makes sense from an alcoholic's POV...I'm halfway around the world away from my wife...She'll never find out...So, the tour ends. He comes home and says he's still sober...I'm still on the wagon. Then he gets a huge DWI...Faces jailtime.
Val draws the line.
(which the whole affair thing is a joke...It's more like MULTIPLE affairs...Don't tell me this guy hasn't got caught numerous times with his pants down. This may have just been the only broad who had a NAME)
She tells him he cleans up or she's out.
He checks into rehab again and actually cleans up.They record Balance and hit the road..He slips a little bit on the road. Seems determined but shit statrs going bad with Hagar while on the road - STRESS - maybe a few drinks..
Hagar cruises - STRESS - maybe a few more drinks. Roth is in - STRESS. Roth is out STRESS.
Cherone comes on board..New album - STRESS. Cherone ****s. The album dies....STRESS...He fires Cherone....STRESS....He fires Danniels - STRESS....Guess what - the guy is definitely
drinking again - but he has tried to hide it as much as possible from Val. She finds out (they always do) and busts his chops. He keeps it under control.
ROTH comes back around - STRESS....Roth is in ....Roth is out...STRESS. He's drinking a little again.
He gets cancer - STRESS. He beats it...Valerie
tells him "you gotta change (drinking and smoking)or you're gonna be dead.If you love me. If you love your child - you'll get better and be around for us"...It works for a spell...
Then WB fires them - STRESS...He's drinking again...Maybe heavily this time...He's also still smoking...Like most alcoholics, he possibly defends his habit one last time..." Get off my ass...I just had a bout with cancer...My career is dead...I just lost my record deal. My fans are turning against me. I'm not hurting anyone here It's just a few beers." But as any alcoholic knows - it's never a few beers..Two or three a day turns into 5 or 6...Then 10-12...Then you've got morning drinks prior to the beer officially starting at noon.It all builds..
Finally Val gives up..."You can't save someone from themselves."...I'm sure her life over the past five years has been hell...She's watched him go through some of the worst times of his life and I'm sure he's dealt with it the way all alcoholics do...Numb yourself from the pain.
Nothing feels right without a cigarette and a beer in your hand...
Quite honestly, the guy has probably TOTALLY fallen off the wagon right now due to the divorce. Probably why those pics look so bad...He's probably drowning himself in booze, painkillers or whatever else just to numb the pain.
She probably still loves him but refuses to watch him kill himself...And in the end, I'll bet you money that's exactly what will happen...If it's not tongue cancer, it'll be lung cancer or liver failure...
The question is - where the **** is his big brother through all of this...You need family to step in when you're ****ing up..Maybe Alex is too ****ed up to help either....Sad.
So there's my perspective...When you spell it out like that. It almost starts to make sense why we haven't heard anything from them..When the pain hits an alcoholic, the number 1 thing is to stay ****ed up cuz that's the only time you're happy.
Compound that with a bad manager, no singer, pissed off fans and a wife who is threatening to leave you - you start to fall in your hole....Some people can crawl out of it..They can say "hey I'm ****ing up. I need to change" Others will see the whole world as being ****ed up and
"nobody understands me. I'm fine....I need this fix to be all right...I'm not hurting anyone. It makes me a better person" So you keep doing it because you're convinced that you're OK...In the end, you've lost everything...It's really, really sad.
I think we can all read between the lines. Eddie was and is still an alcoholic.
Val didn't wanna bring a child into the world under those conditions (so it must've been bad - you know half a case a day...Bottle of Jack a day) They went ahead and had a child anyway.
Ed calmed down a bit but heads out on a world tour for the **** album. Hagar said in his book that Ed was drinking like a mother ****er in Japan. He was so drunk he didn't think he'd be able to play. Makes sense from an alcoholic's POV...I'm halfway around the world away from my wife...She'll never find out...So, the tour ends. He comes home and says he's still sober...I'm still on the wagon. Then he gets a huge DWI...Faces jailtime.
Val draws the line.
(which the whole affair thing is a joke...It's more like MULTIPLE affairs...Don't tell me this guy hasn't got caught numerous times with his pants down. This may have just been the only broad who had a NAME)
She tells him he cleans up or she's out.
He checks into rehab again and actually cleans up.They record Balance and hit the road..He slips a little bit on the road. Seems determined but shit statrs going bad with Hagar while on the road - STRESS - maybe a few drinks..
Hagar cruises - STRESS - maybe a few more drinks. Roth is in - STRESS. Roth is out STRESS.
Cherone comes on board..New album - STRESS. Cherone ****s. The album dies....STRESS...He fires Cherone....STRESS....He fires Danniels - STRESS....Guess what - the guy is definitely
drinking again - but he has tried to hide it as much as possible from Val. She finds out (they always do) and busts his chops. He keeps it under control.
ROTH comes back around - STRESS....Roth is in ....Roth is out...STRESS. He's drinking a little again.
He gets cancer - STRESS. He beats it...Valerie
tells him "you gotta change (drinking and smoking)or you're gonna be dead.If you love me. If you love your child - you'll get better and be around for us"...It works for a spell...
Then WB fires them - STRESS...He's drinking again...Maybe heavily this time...He's also still smoking...Like most alcoholics, he possibly defends his habit one last time..." Get off my ass...I just had a bout with cancer...My career is dead...I just lost my record deal. My fans are turning against me. I'm not hurting anyone here It's just a few beers." But as any alcoholic knows - it's never a few beers..Two or three a day turns into 5 or 6...Then 10-12...Then you've got morning drinks prior to the beer officially starting at noon.It all builds..
Finally Val gives up..."You can't save someone from themselves."...I'm sure her life over the past five years has been hell...She's watched him go through some of the worst times of his life and I'm sure he's dealt with it the way all alcoholics do...Numb yourself from the pain.
Nothing feels right without a cigarette and a beer in your hand...
Quite honestly, the guy has probably TOTALLY fallen off the wagon right now due to the divorce. Probably why those pics look so bad...He's probably drowning himself in booze, painkillers or whatever else just to numb the pain.
She probably still loves him but refuses to watch him kill himself...And in the end, I'll bet you money that's exactly what will happen...If it's not tongue cancer, it'll be lung cancer or liver failure...
The question is - where the **** is his big brother through all of this...You need family to step in when you're ****ing up..Maybe Alex is too ****ed up to help either....Sad.
So there's my perspective...When you spell it out like that. It almost starts to make sense why we haven't heard anything from them..When the pain hits an alcoholic, the number 1 thing is to stay ****ed up cuz that's the only time you're happy.
Compound that with a bad manager, no singer, pissed off fans and a wife who is threatening to leave you - you start to fall in your hole....Some people can crawl out of it..They can say "hey I'm ****ing up. I need to change" Others will see the whole world as being ****ed up and
"nobody understands me. I'm fine....I need this fix to be all right...I'm not hurting anyone. It makes me a better person" So you keep doing it because you're convinced that you're OK...In the end, you've lost everything...It's really, really sad.