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Don Wishon
10-07-2003, 10:17 AM
U.S. Record Stores Get No Satisfaction from Stones
Mon Oct 6, 4:12 PM ET

By Dean Goodman

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - If music retailers needed another warning that their future is imperiled from slackening sales, veteran rockers the Rolling Stones have given it to them.

The British band snubbed U.S. record stores late last week by anointing mass market electronics chain Best Buy Co. Inc. as the only seller of its new DVD, "Four Flicks," for four months, and independent record store owners are seething.

From Nov. 11, through the holiday rush, traditional music retailers will be forced to watch as potential customers flock to Best Buy to snap up the 4-disc package being sold for $29.99.

As the music industry reels from plunging sales due in part to Internet piracy, they also are facing heightened competition from mass merchants like Best Buy and Target Corp. that control about 55 percent of U.S. music sales.

These giants often use their muscle to sell music as loss-leading products in hopes that customers will walk out with a newly released $9.99 CD and a $1,000 TV or refrigerator.

Increasingly, the mass market vendors are entering into exclusive deals with top bands such as U2 and the Eagles, though the exclusive sales windows for those acts lasted weeks rather than months.

Such deals are short-sighted and hurt not only traditional retailers, but the music industry as a whole, said Clark Benson, chief executive officer of Almighty Institute of Music Retail, which helps record labels work with music stores.

"The more that a mass merchant like Best Buy ends up having an exclusive, the more it hurts these pure-play record stores," Benson said. "Those stores are the ones where people are really getting turned onto new stuff, not the mass merchants."

Benson said over 1,100 chain and independent record stores have closed in 2003, making it hard for consumers to stumble upon the new music that is the industry's lifeblood and future.

Torrance, California-based Wherehouse Entertainment Inc., which had 339 stores a decade ago, will soon be down to 111 after filing for bankruptcy protection in January. The 95-store Tower Records chain of Sacramento, Calif. is flirting with bankruptcy.

Industrywide, in North America, first-half 2003 music sales fell 11.7 percent to $5.1 billion from the year-ago period.

NO SYMPATHY FOR DEVILS

Some retailers are not only angry, but are plotting revenge.

"The mistake some of these guys may be making is that a lot of retailers are like elephants that don't forget," said Mike Dreese, co-founder of Boston-based chain, Newbury Comics.

Best Buy's two-week exclusive in 2001 for a U2 concert DVD caused Newbury to retaliate by doubling the fee it charged U2's record label for marketing any of its acts. Newbury ended up with about $15,000 in extra income.

"In essence we issued a speeding ticket to them and they paid it," Dreese said.

With the Rolling Stones, Dreese expects he will mark up the band's extensive CD catalog by a few dollars. He expected to lose some customers but said, "we're basically not going to make it easy for them (the Stones) to easily profit off their brand if they're favoring a competitor in a permanent way."

A spokeswoman for the Rolling Stones said the members and their advisors were traveling and unavailable for comment.

Retailers kicked up a fuss earlier this year after the Eagles released a DVD single exclusively through Best Buy for one month, but received no sympathy from the band's manager, Irving Azoff.

Gary Arnold, Best Buy's senior vice president of entertainment similarly shrugged off concerns about its exclusive deals, and said he expected "Four Flicks" would be the company's best-selling music DVD ever.

malja316
10-07-2003, 10:51 AM
Thanks for the news, Don. While I am not happy with this situation, I will have to go to Best Buy anyways and purchase this DVD. I always wanted to get a Rolling Stones concert in 5.1 surround sound and now I will have my chance.

malja316
10-07-2003, 10:53 AM
Taken from http://www.rollingstones.com

October 02, 2003
Rolling Stones Four DVD Set "Four Flicks" To Be Released November 11th

Features Songs Never Before Released Sold Exclusively at Best Buy for $29.99

New York, NY - (October 2, 2003) - The Rolling Stones four DVD set "Four Flicks" featuring over 5 hours of music and more than 50 songs will be released November 11th by TGA Entertainment. Three DVDs will feature more than 25 classics including, "Satisfaction," "Brown Sugar," "Jumpin' Jack Flash," and "Sympathy for the Devil," as well as many songs never released live before including "Love Train," "Rock me Baby," "Nearness of You," "Monkey Man," "Worried About You," and "Hand of Fate." The fourth DVD presents two exclusive behind the scenes documentaries, "Tip of the Tongue" and "Licks Around the World." "Four Flicks" will be sold exclusively at Best Buy for $29.99 and is expected to be a key generator of excitement and sales for Best Buy through the holidays. The four DVD set can be pre-ordered starting today through Best Buy's website (www.BestBuy.com).

"Four Flicks" will present the magic and excitement of having a front row seat for the spectacular sold-out and critically acclaimed Rolling Stones "Licks" World Tour 2002/2003. It showcases the band's diversity as musicians and performers by documenting three dramatically different shows from the intimacy of the historic Olympia Theatre in Paris to the excitement of New York's legendary Madison Square Garden to the gigantic spectacle of London's Twickenham Stadium.

"This DVD includes not only the classics but songs that we have never before recorded including 'I Can't Turn You Loose,' and 'Love Train' along with songs that have never been recorded live such as 'Monkey Man' and 'Rocks off,'" said the Rolling Stones.

"Tip of the Tongue," is a never before seen documentary chronicling the conception and preparations for the innovative 3 show/3 venue concept from the recording studio in Paris to Toronto where the band prepares for their "Licks" World Tour. "Licks Around the World" offers fans the opportunity to travel on the road with the Rolling Stones, from the tour's beginnings in the United States, through Japan, India, Europe and the United Kingdom, with bootleg tracks "Beast of Burden," "Bitch," "You Don't Have To Mean It," and many other hidden features.

The "Four Flicks" collection features the latest in DVD technology offering cutting edge interaction, special viewing features and inside commentary. Bonus features include "Backstage Pass," which allows the viewer to cut back and forth from the performance on stage to what is going on at the same time backstage. "Select-A-Stone" allows the viewer to select his/her own isolated camera shot of their favorite Rolling Stone. "Band Commentary" lets the viewer drop in on the band talking about writing and recording the song currently playing. Audio options include a totally immersive Dolby 5.1 surround sound audio experience.

"Fans will get to experience the best band on their best tour," said Michael Cohl, tour director. "The Rolling Stones and TGA Entertainment have worked with Best Buy to present the ultimate Rolling Stones live DVD for the ultimate price."

"We're extremely excited to work with the Rolling Stones and TGA to offer our customers this exclusive concert four DVD set," said Gary Arnold, senior vice president of entertainment for Best Buy. "Best Buy is committed to finding ways to bring people closer to the music they love and this is part of an ongoing effort to bring fans unique entertainment. This four DVD set uses never-before-seen concert material and behind the scenes footage to provide fans with a unique look at the greatest band of all time."

The "Four Flicks" DVD is produced by TGA Entertainment, a multi-faceted entertainment company and worldwide tour promoters for the Rolling Stones "Licks" World Tour. The Paris/New York/London concerts were all produced and directed by Marty Callner and produced by Randy Gladstein. Audio mixes were done by Ed Cherney. The New York Madison Square Garden concert was featured on HBO and has earned four Emmy nominations.

Minneapolis-based Best Buy Co., Inc. is North America's leading specialty retailer of consumer electronics, personal computers, entertainment software and appliances. The Company's subsidiaries operate retail stores and/or Web sites under the names: Best Buy (BestBuy.com), Future Shop (FutureShop.ca), Geek Squad (GeekSquad.com) and Magnolia Hi-Fi (MagnoliaHiFi.com). The Company's subsidiaries reach consumers through nearly 700 retail stores in the United States and Canada.

Doorman
10-07-2003, 02:00 PM
As a tremendous and long time Stones fan, I am very excited about this new release and not surprised at the marketing being used here. Mr. Valentine, I mean Mr. Jagger has set the price and this tactic helps avoid any price wars leading up to the holiday season. The majority of the sales for this DVD will be immediate and Christmas driven, so why not get the price that you want right out of the gate. As stated in the articles, sure it hurts the smaller retailer and perhaps has a bit of an effect on the industry as a whole, but welcome to retailing in the USA in the "New Millenium". Mick probably got the idea over a NYC dinner with Gene and Paul.

GuitarPLYR
10-07-2003, 02:05 PM
Nicely said Winthorp.;)

Delirious Nomad
10-07-2003, 03:03 PM
Well done, Valentine.

GuitarPLYR
10-07-2003, 05:08 PM
Where's Beeks?!!?

danny
10-07-2003, 11:46 PM
jagger is no fool,he is one hell of a business man

Doorman
10-08-2003, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by danny
jagger is no fool,he is one hell of a business man
YEAH....those damn LSE grads!

Doorman
10-30-2003, 05:25 PM
Canadian Music Stores Toss Out Rolling Stones


The recordings of veteran rockers the Rolling Stones have been yanked from the shelves of many of Canada's music stores, in protest of an exclusive deal made by the band.

Major music chains across the country have vowed to keep the band's music off their shelves indefinitely after the Stones made an exclusive deal with retailer Best Buy to carry its new four-disc DVD, Four Flicks, due in stores next month.

The deal extends to Best Buy's Canadian outlets, shutting out other retailers.

Tim Baker, head buyer for the Sunrise Records chain, rants, "What have these guys become? We've been supporting the Rolling Stones for decades and loyalty is a two-way street. To do something like this just smacks of greed."

Stones promoter Michael Cohl says Best Buy agreed to sell the set for the lowest price in Canada, which was the motivating factor for the deal. But rival retailers are alarmed by the trend this may set at a time when their music sales are suffering.

The controversy over the DVD is set to affect the British rockers' relationship with Canadian fans - especially in Toronto where they have a long history. In July, the band headlined a massive concert to help boost spirits and tourism after the severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) outbreak in Toronto.

Retailers say they will boycott the Stones indefinitely unless they are allowed to carry the new material.

Baker adds, "If we don't, we will be not just a SARS-free

malja316
10-30-2003, 05:54 PM
What a bunch of crybabies! WAH WAH WAH we cant sell the Stones DVD WAH WAH WAH! I know it ****s that I have to go to Best Buy only and pick this up but hopefully, these business deals wont happen on a frequent basis.

LessPaull
10-30-2003, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by GuitarPLYR
Nicely said Winthorp.;)


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