Jack Bruce from Creem slams Led Zeppelin!!! from eddietrunk.com

[GreggFromJoisey]

04-Nov-08Cream's Jack Bruce Slams Led Zeppelin-"You're Crap And You've Always Been Crap"
Submitted by: DSR

Jack Bruce picked up the Classic Album gong for Cream's "Disraeli Gears" at last night's Marshall Classic Rock Roll Of Honour held at London's Park Lane Hotel.

After the ceremony, Classic Rock magazine's Dave Ling grabbed Bruce for a quickfire interview — and was stunned when the legendary bassist launched into an extraordinary anti-Led Zeppelin tirade.

An excerpt from the chat follows below.

Classic Rock: The million dollar question: Are Cream going to do anything again?

Jack Bruce: Oh yeah, I'm sure we will. But we'll have Todd Rundgren [who's just walked by] in the band by then.

Classic Rock: It's good news that there might be more from Cream.

Jack Bruce: Well, the trouble is that I'm doing so many amazing things on my own. Cream is just a band from many, many years ago, and we did do something [referring to the reunion shows in 2005]… Everybody talks about Led Zeppelin, and they played one ****ing gig — one ****ing lame gig — while Cream did weeks of gigs; proper gigs, not just a lame gig like Zeppelin did, with all the [vocal] keys lowered and everything. We played everything in the original keys. [Becoming animated]: **** off, Zeppelin, you're crap. You've always been crap and you'll never be anything else. The worst thing is that people believe the crap that they're sold. Cream is 10 times the band that Led Zeppelin is.

Classic Rock: That's a bold opinion.

Jack Bruce: What? You're gonna compare Eric Clapton with that ****ing Jimmy Page? Would you really compare that?

Classic Rock: To be fair, they're different kinds of player, aren't they?

Jack Bruce: No! Eric 's good and Jimmy 's crap. And with that I rest my case.

Read the entire interview from Classic Rock magazine at: http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/page/classicrock?entry=led_zeppelin_you_re_crap.

source: blabbermouth.net


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[zebrarette]

:shock_1: whoa...that's just wrong. Totally wrong.

[crizman]

A little bitter are we.without Cream,Jack Bruce has no real draw.Maybe he was off his meds!

[Zephead]

Wow I used to respect him. What a very stupid thing to say. Not uncommon though as people have been bashing Zeppelin from the beginning. Every single album they released the critics slammed them and said they were done. Fast forward 30 years later and they still have 10-15 songs in regular rotation on the airways. How many cream songs do you still hear on a regular basis. Oh well I still love Clapton as well.

[GreggFromJoisey]

I was just posting it. I didnt say I agreed with it. I don't.
To me, Creem was "one dimensional" were they good. Definitely. Could they have released MY FAVORITE album of all time, Led Zeppelin III
No way folks

[mark]

Can't mock Jack Bruce, Mayall or Clapton for any part.
'Wheels of Fire' is definitely one of my favorite albums of all time.
But we are now in a age where alot of true 60's originators of Rock n Roll are vastly aging. Opinons are gonna change. Whether its griping about their past bands overall noteriety, recognition or whatever.
I never felt Zeppelin was the greatest band in the world. Alot of others would object to that comment. But musicianship has to be respected at all levels.
In the 60's and 70's there were all different types of sounds coming out. Alot of bands like Zeppelin and Cream pushed the hard rocking scene with an interactive Stoner-blues style. It worked for them at the time and they went with it.
If Chili Peppers music was in style back then, that would of been the path they persued.
Each band has its own nitch in the fabrics of Rock n roll.
To mock another is just plain wrong or perhaps jealousy.
Or perhaps just a buzzed man's rantings that got conveyed into a tabloid that has little or no representation.

While Cream was a great band, so was Zeppelin.

I respect both bands for their contribution to rock n roll.

May their music live forever.

[OURSOOOOO]

Who in the F is J. Bruce
JPJ makes an A>S>S out of you. I did not even hear of "CREAMS" reunions, how many did they draw 5, 10,000.

Ole J boy Zepp had 20 million requests for tickets.
This has got to be some kind of joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Either that or you are completely NUTS.



Eric Clapton could not carry Jimmys guitar case.
He cannot write as Jimmy did, cannot improvise and basically cannot play anywhere near Jimmy.

I like Clapton, and really should not be saying this about him because he did not and would never say this about Jimmy or anyone.
But Eric you are a great songwriter and Average guitarist at best.

No further questions.
Ah......... no more of this ignorance

[crizman]

WOW!!!! A bit over the top! apples & oranges.... Eric & Jimmy - both super guitarists both very different! It's all personal preference. Jimmy Page & ZEP are my all time favorite! Eric Clapton is amazing also just different!

[Andrew]

That is really a bold and bogus statement...I was really surprised to hear that coming from a guy as talented as Bruce,I mean i hear musicians taken pokes at other musicians but those statements are truly ridicoulous....an in my opinion there has to be a unknown reason ,other than music and a 40 year old rivary, maybe a personal thing like Page bonked his girlfriend then spit on him in 1968? who knows.....As far as Cream vs Zeppelin Zep def had a more enduring career and I wouldd say wrote better songs, however Cream were and still are no joke as players one of the first real power trios to come out and very innovative players during and after Cream

Another thing that bothers me is as some of these guys get older they get more bitter, like last year , (I forget the source)Paul Mcartney was just rambling about how he never got the proper credit for his work and said something along the lines of :" everyone thinks that John Lennon was the true genius of the band,and I was just the guy that sang "Yesterday". I mean this is Paul Mcartney a guy that has always been praised as a true talent even by John Lennon himself.... go figure!!!!

[GreggFromJoisey]

Man, that was a fantastic post OURSOOOOOOOO
You're right about comparing Clapton and Page....like I said see Led Zeppelin III Clapton is good, but his acoustic guitar is not in the same league as Jimmy's....


Who in the F is J. Bruce
JPJ makes an A>S>S out of you. I did not even hear of "CREAMS" reunions, how many did they draw 5, 10,000.

Ole J boy Zepp had 20 million requests for tickets.
This has got to be some kind of joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Either that or you are completely NUTS.



Eric Clapton could not carry Jimmys guitar case.
He cannot write as Jimmy did, cannot improvise and basically cannot play anywhere near Jimmy.

I like Clapton, and really should not be saying this about him because he did not and would never say this about Jimmy or anyone.
But Eric you are a great songwriter and Average guitarist at best.

No further questions.
Ah......... no more of this ignorance

[ronbo11]

Man, that was a fantastic post OURSOOOOOOOO
You're right about comparing Clapton and Page....like I said see Led Zeppelin III Clapton is good, but his acoustic guitar is not in the same league as Jimmy's....

And neither were the best guitarist to come out of the Yardbirds or can compare to Jeff Beck on electric :tongue2: Of course, I'm the moderator of the Jeff Beck Appreciation Society on Yahoo groups so I might be biased!

Another musician who doesn't like Zep is Keith Richards and I'm sure that is strictly professional jealousy. I saw a quote by him replying about how successful Zeppelin were and they were outdrawing the Stones during the 70s and Richards sniffed "They weren't even a BAND, man!" Of course he can laugh his coconut-tree-falling, dead-fathers-ashes-snorting ass to the bank for 40 years after the heyday of the rivalry.

[Andrew]

The more I think of this, as a band rivary, the more stupid it sounds. I can almost see the Zepp vs. Stones thing cause both bands were making records and touring at the same time in the 1970s, but Cream was pretty much done,within six months of the release of the first Zeppelin record....

[Wakddood]

Clapton was no average guitarist. He is one of the great masters of which Jimmy is too. Comparing bands is ridiculous as everybody has their own personal tastes. I have to agree with one thing he said, about for their reunion show not cutting it because they had lower the vocal keys. Robert was right about not wanting to tour because he can't do the songs justice, although now I hear he changed his mind. He needs to stick with his current stuff and leave the Zeppelin to somebody else like Randy.

[GreggFromJoisey]

Now, as discussed, we really can't compare the great guitar players, however I'm gonna throw in a little twist....innovations....Page with the violin bow, the production (listen to Led Zeppelin I, man that holds up today even!!), Clapton, I'm sorry but to me, no guitar "innovations"....every song basically the same, with maybe the exception of "Lay Down Sally"....
Now you want innovation? Try Frampton with the talk box on "Do You Feel Like We Do" and "Show Me The Way"....also listen to his mellower stuff: Lines on My Face, Nassau, I'm In You, he is truly one of my faves.
And, lets put his vocals above Page too. Page only played guitar. Hats off to guitar players who sing: Clapton, Frampton, even Buckingham!

[Andrew]

Gregg From Joisey wrote:Hats off to guitar players who sing: Clapton, Frampton, even Buckingham!


Buckingham: Now thats a guy that nobody ever mentions, very, very, Ill say it again:very underated musician!!!!!!

[OURSOOOOO]

Well its only opinion and I like Clapton, But I do not hear anything special about his guitar playing, Its baically a bunch of blues riffs, nothing that special.
Ok now here comes the "well Page and Zepp were a blues band" Bu..llshit , they def played and copied some blues tunes but they also were very innovative with thier songwriting.
"the song remains the same" song not vid
"immigrant song" so simple but powerfull
"ten years gone" wow
"Battle of evermore"
"Friends"
"going to cal"
"communiication breakdown"
"Hey hey"
I could go on and on, I just listed a few off the top of my head here that represent a variety of styles from heavy hitting, to folk, to Indian/Arabic and just plain rock.

And as far as replacing Plant, For a "Zepplinish" type tour,that would be totally ridiculous, and stupid. no more to say on that.

[OURSOOOOO]

DEF great guitarist and truly fantastic musicians in every respect.

Buckingham def underrated.

[OURSOOOOO]

Randy covers Zepp well, Randy is ZEBRA not ZEPP.
And I am great friends with Randy , He is not the greatest Plant cover vocalist. I think he would tell you that. Nor does he want to be.
He does his own thing.

yeah I know the symphony shows, but Eagles, Floyd, Doors...............
just shows the TALENT he has. and his musicianship I would put with anyone.

Randy Jackson is the founder,vocalist, guitar player of ZEBRA. a band that did farely well. (and still does)

Please leave this alone.

[Andrew]

I agree with OURSOOOOO for the fact: without Robert Plant you dont have a real re- union of Led Zeppelin. To me you need to have all the surviving original members. In fact the only reason why true Zeppelin fans would even except Jason Bonham as a replacement to John Bonham,is for the obvious fact that he is the next in kin and a damn good drummer who was taught by his father...

On the same note just for shits and giggles, Ken Dasher from 104.3 was doing a "just for fun survey" about who would be the best replacement for Robert Plant (Ken agrees with most of us there is no one that can truly replace him)and people were voting in.. some of these guys were good choices like David Coverdale and others were okay: Paul Stanley, others were just plain stupid like Rod Stewart and Phil Collins. With that said I do think that Randy would be damn close to the best man for the job since he does great Zeppelin, and I would have loved to hear him get a lot of votes!!!

Again for the record,there is only one Robert Plant!!!!

[OURSOOOOO]

The absolute best cover vocalist that I have ever heard do zepp is the vocalist from The tribute,"zoso" Matt Jernigan, I know some of you on here have seen them and some were not impressed.
I have seen them numerous times and I have heard them sound bad, sound guys fault , Lafayette (Grant street) was a good example.
Right sound guy who is used to mixing real RR does these guys wonders.
Most sound guys of todays "generation" do not have a clue, when you throw an acoustic and some keys at them they are lost.

[crizman]

I have'nt seen any Zep cover bands,but I do have the Great White album of Zep covers and that guy ( Jack Russel- I think? ) sounded awesome!!!

[Andrew]

I would love to hear that guy that OURSOOOOO is talking about from that ZoSo band, if anyone has samples please send them my way...Jack Russell is damn good, and i like the dude that used to sing for Felix's Hindenberg band, I forget his name all I know was he was once in Physical Graffiti one of the first Zep tributes to hit Long Island in the early to mid 80s.....

Other than that i think of heard more famous guys do bad Plant impressions, For instance,A lot of people like Chris Robinson from Black Crowes, but I was never impressed with him doing Zepp,and every time I hear Scott Weiland doing "Dancing Days" I reach for my barf bag....

[OURSOOOOO]

There are some you tubes on Zoso, but you gotta see them live.

[OURSOOOOO]

A zepp tribute cd which will feature various artist will soon be released, its mostly musicians from everywhere and not necessarily famous ones.
Three local musicians from this area will be featured on one tune.
details too come.

[Wakddood]

Yeah, it isn't a true reunion without Robert but he can't do it anymore. Many singers can't sing like they used to. That why I gotta take my hat off for people like Randy, Dio, and Bruce ****inson who still got it after all these years. I can't sing like I used to in my 20's, age kills your voice when it comes to the highs. Even my fave Geoff Tate can't do it anymore. You can only change a song so much before you ruin it. As far as guitarists go, they all play different so there's no comparing them.

[RnR TNT]

Those before Zep always made fun of them. Even Paul and Wings on the song "Jet" or Zappa's Mothers "filmore 72" with the Robert Planet Groupy sketch