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OU812
11-30-2006, 12:46 PM
If this doesn't open your eyes... nothing will!





From the L.A. Times



1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County ( L.A. County has 10.2 million people)
are working for cash and not paying taxes. This was because they are
predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.




2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.



3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.



4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien
Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.




5. Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers
are Mexican nationals here illegally.



6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.



7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles
are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.



8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.



9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.




10. In L.A. County 5.1 million people speak English.
3.9 million speak Spanish.
(There are 10.2 million people in L.A. County).




(All the above from the Los Angeles Times)





Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops,
but 29% are on welfare.


Over 70% of the United States' annual population growth
(and over 90% of California , Florida , and < st1:State w:st="on">New York )
results from immigration.


The cost of immigration to the American taxpayer in 1997 was,
(after subtracting taxes immigrants pay), a NET $70 BILLION/
year, [Professor Donald Huddle, Rice University ]. The lifetime
fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average
adult Mexican immigrant is a NEGATIVE number.


29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.



If they can come to this country to raise Hell and demonstrate by
the thousands, WHY can't they take charge over the corruption
in their own country?


We are a bunch of fools for letting this continue.





THE U.S. VS MEXICO



On February 15, 1998, the U.S. and Mexican soccer teams met at the Los Angeles
Coliseum. The crowd was overwhelmingly pro-Mexican even though most lived
in this country. They booed during the National Anthem and U.S. flags were held
upside down. As the match progressed, supporters of the U.S. team were insulted,
pelted with projectiles, punched and spat upon. Beer and trash were thrown at
the U.S. players before and after the match. The coach of the U.S. team, Steve
Sampson said, "This was the most painful experience I ha ve ever had in this
profession."


Did you know that immigrants from Mexico and other non-European countries
can come to this country and get preferences in jobs, education, and government
contracts. It's called affirmative action or racial privilege. The Emperor of Japan
or the President of Mexico could migrate here and immediately be eligible for
special rights unavailable for Americans of European descent.


Corporate America has signed on to the idea that minorities and third world
immigrants should get special, privileged status. Some examples are Exxon,
Texaco, Merrill Lynch, Boeing, Paine Weber, Starbucks and many more.





DID YOU KNOW?


Did you know .. < /B>that Mexico regularly intercedes on the side
of the defense in criminal cases involving Mexican nationals?

Did you know .. that Mexico has NEVER extradited a Mexican
national accused of murder in the U.S. in spite of agreements to do so?
According to the L.A. Times, Orange County , California is home to 275
gangs with 17,000 members, 98% of which are Mexican and Asian.
How's your county doing?


According to a New York Times article dated May 19 , 1994, 20 years after
the great influx of legal immigrants from Southeast Asia, 30% are still on
welfare compared to 8% of households nationwide. A Wall Street Journal
editorial dated December 5, 1994 quotes law enforcement officials as stat-
ing that Asian mobsters are the "greatest criminal challenge the country
faces." Not bad for a group that is still under 5% of the population.


Is education important to you? Here are the words of a teacher who spent
over 20 years in the Los Angeles School system. "Imagine teachers in classes
containing 30-40 students of widely varying attention spans and motivation,
many of whom aren't fluent in English. Educators seek learning materials
likely to reach the majority of students and that means fewer words and
math problems and more pictures and multicultural references."




WHEN I WAS YOUNG

I remember hearing about the immigrants that came through Ellis Island .
They wanted to learn English. They wanted to breathe free. They wanted
to become Americans. Now, far too many immigrants come here with de-
mands. They demand to be taught in their own language. They demand spe-
cial privileges .. affirmative action. They demand ethnic studies that glorify
their culture.


NOW .
WHY CAN'T WE SEND THEM HOME





HOW CAN YOU HELP?
Send copies of this letter to at least two other people ...
100 would be even better.

Don Wishon
11-30-2006, 01:35 PM
Farmers Branch council OKs illegal-immigration measures
By PATRICK McGEE
STAR-TELEGRAM STAFF WRITER
11/14/2006

FARMERS BRANCH -- Despite loud protests from scores of pro-immigrant demonstrators, the City Council adopted ordinances Monday night to crack down on illegal immigration and to make English the city's official language.

Opponents of illegal immigration cheered when the council voted unanimously to pass ordinances that will:

Require city officials to conduct nearly all official business in English.

Prohibit landlords from renting apartments to people who cannot prove their citizenship or legal status.

Have city police enter into a cooperative agreement with federal immigration officials to target "criminal aliens."

Hundreds of people on both sides were turned away from the council chambers because of a lack of space. They sometimes tried to out-shout one another in the City Hall lobby by chanting slogans. A police officer with a bullhorn told them that they had to be quiet or leave.

Other officers milled around the crowd that was thick with American flags, protest signs and camera crews. Police kept riot gear, transparent shields, helmets with face masks and batons behind the receptionist's desk in City Hall's spacious lobby.

Such scenes could soon come to cities in Tarrant County, because anti-illegal immigration activists in Arlington and Fort Worth said they will push for similar measures. Members of city councils in Fort Worth, Arlington and Bedford recently told the Star-Telegram that they worry that such proposals could attract lawsuits and turn their meetings into heated debates.

Hispanic groups addressed the Farmers Branch City Council during its work session in the afternoon.

Members of the League of United Latin American Citizens presented a petition with about 150 signatures urging the council to drop the anti-illegal immigration measures.

Members of the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund told the council that approving anti-illegal immigration ordinances would be a mistake.

"We are here not only to say that these ordinances violate federal law, but that these ordinances drive unnecessary tension in the city," said Marisol Perez, a staff attorney for MALDEF.

MALDEF holds that such ordinances are not legal because immigration law is the federal government's responsibility. This month, the organization sued Escondido, Calif., for passing anti-illegal immigration ordinances.

LULAC members presented their petition and argued that Farmers Branch could not promote itself to prospective home buyers if it was sending an anti-immigrant message.

"It's hypocritical to promote Farmers Branch as a great city when you're promoting hateful legislation," LULAC member Carlos Quintanilla said. "You can't promote Farmers Branch as a great city when you're denying people the right to live in apartments, when you're denying children the right to speak their language."

But others showed up for the evening meeting voicing strong support for Councilman Tim O'Hare, the ordinances' architect.

Robin Bernier, who said she lives in Farmers Branch, wore a shirt that said "I support the Tim O'Hare proposals."

She said she wanted to see an ordinance that would prohibit illegal immigrants from renting property.

"They end up with five or 10 people in a house and five or six cars outside," she said. "It's just not right. We don't want them renting to illegals."

The ordinance on renting takes effect in January. Landlords will be fined $500 if they rent to illegal immigrants.

The ordinance on English as the official language will not entirely ban other languages from city business. For example, police officers and firefighters could speak foreign languages during emergencies to people not fluent in English.

O'Hare complained that some were smearing the English-only ordinances as something that would prohibit Catholic churches from celebrating Mass in Spanish.

"Shame on anyone that said that or reported that in the media," he said.

Councilman Charlie Bird said the English requirement is meant to help immigrants assimilate.

"You should learn English if you want to live in the United States," he said.

The third ordinance will have local police participate in a program called 287(g) with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

ICE spokesman Tim Counts said only the Los Angeles County Jail and the state police in Alabama and Florida have gone though 287(g) training.

Representatives for the Fort Worth and Arlington police departments said that enforcing immigration laws is a federal responsibility, and that they could alienate segments of the Hispanic community if they enforce immigration laws.

yleekiyote
11-30-2006, 01:42 PM
Damn, you know what this all means.......................yep..............short er lines at Taco Bell :pain:

mark
11-30-2006, 02:00 PM
I see it everyday at the train station heading in to work.

Day laborers waiting for contractors to come buy and pick em up. Occasionally the police chase em but it doesn't help. They walk around the corner and come back. Sometimes as many as 50 or more.

yleekiyote
11-30-2006, 02:17 PM
Mark, that is great. I wish the black community did that down here. Since Katrina, these mexicans have come here and quite frankly, have helped us out in rebuilding. They are at least interested in working for a living, and doing it honestly. The blacks have started crying already and I can't wait until one of them says "the mexicans have taken our housing, they have taken our schools, they have taken our jobs..." and someone says WHAT??? You guys didn't work anyway, you live off of the government. The latest news is that a bunch of blacks are screaming that they want to move back in the projects, but the state won't let them. "we gotz no place to stayz". If the state was smart, they would buy some property many miles from the city, and create a little world for them. If they aren't going to contribute to New Orleans, then they don't need to be in New Orleans, it's just that simple. The government should not allow this city to become what it was before Katrina. Yes this was a "Cleansing", and it is justifyed. They will still have housing, and schools, and shops, just not too close to people who want to come to New Orleans, and live in fear while they are here. What is wrong with that? I wish a politician would wake up and create a statics sheet that shows a ruthless drug killer, and shows his position as a contributor to the problem. If he has a 40 hour job, flipping burgers, chances are he is interested in doing things the right way. I know, this becomes racial, but it has to be done.

mark
11-30-2006, 03:14 PM
You only get back what you put into life.

I have no problem with these guys making a living as day laborers. However, It can present a problem if they're not paying taxes while the rest of us are. For instance I had a guy cut down a few trees in front of my house about a month ago. The guy he came over with a laborer, I tried talking too him, but he barely understood english. You know, I ask a question, he turns his head, nods and smiles. Well that doesn't answer my question dumbass. I don't think he understood me.
Yet when the tree service business owner came by to collect his $1300 (I tipped him $100) he asked on the phone before hand if I can pay cash instead of check. His excuse was, "Short on cash this week and I have some guys to pay today". So he probably pays them under the table cash.

Don't know his filing status either but if he has an ex that he pays child support too, it would actually go to him as unreported income allowing him to not have to pay state or federal taxes or child support on this earned income.

Me, I didn't give a crap, The trees are gone, here's the money you quoted me. But on a much larger scale, such transactions can certainly effect the economy.

yleekiyote
12-01-2006, 12:08 PM
I see your point Mark. Living the "easy life" and not having to tax these people. I think the government should put in a special law that states "if this is your first time in the country, we will be taxing you a higher percentage". I say we collect extra money from them. If a 40 year old mexican decides he wants to become legal, we just tax him more then someone who has been legal when he was 21. raise it a percentage for each year beyond 21. After a while, they may get the message of pay less to Uncle Sam or go home. Somebody needs to pay a little extra for all the ones that don't pay. Make them report other illegal aliens for some bounties to help offset his over taxing.

GreggFromJoisey
12-01-2006, 12:30 PM
Great points everyone! And did I hear this correctly, that those who come here from India and open up a business are NOT taxed for 7 years???
WHY NOT???

mark
12-01-2006, 12:57 PM
Yep Ylee,

Sounds like that would be a good plan to me. As a trout fisherman, The Division of Fish and Wildlife already do it. Additional fees for outta state person to get fishing liscense. Its called Non-Resident Liscense and cost substatially more then a resident liscense. You come into our state, you catch our fish, you pay extra.
See for yourself.

http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/dfwmr/fish/fishregs/fishregsguide0608.pdf

But thats not how the government works. They charge there longstanding residents whose been in the country for generations extra fees and let the immigrants go free. Totally ass backwards and absurd!